From linux-users-owner@it.canterbury.ac.nz Wed Feb 15 10:35:14 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx X-Envelope-To: xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Received: from pop3.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.6] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.5.2) for xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx (single-drop); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:35:14 +1300 (NZDT) Received: (qmail 29974 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2006 21:33:35 -0000 Received: from tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz (HELO linda-2.paradise.net.nz) (203.96.152.172) by internal-pop3-1.paradise.net.nz with SMTP; 14 Feb 2006 21:33:35 -0000 Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-2.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IUP007TL57G4J@linda-2.paradise.net.nz>; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:17 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from cantva.canterbury.ac.nz (cantva.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.2.27]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0CC1D2D67; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:16 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from PROCESS-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) id <01LYZSWP1WQO9V6TAS@it.canterbury.ac.nz> (original mail from xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:14 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) id <01LYZSWUM85SAJSJ2F@it.canterbury.ac.nz> for linux-users-expand@process.it.canterbury.ac.nz (ORCPT linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:18 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from PMAS-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) id <01LYZSWOSME89V9ZEX@it.canterbury.ac.nz> for linux-users-expand@process.it.canterbury.ac.nz (ORCPT linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:10 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from gatekeeper.tait.co.nz (tel096021.tait.co.nz [202.37.96.21]) by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) with ESMTP id <01LYZSV6QILY9VZXFV@it.canterbury.ac.nz> for linux-users-expand@process.it.canterbury.ac.nz (ORCPT linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:31:58 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from gatekeeper.tait.co.nz (merlin.tait.co.nz [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.tait.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CC415B684 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:09 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from sunstrike.tait.co.nz (unknown [172.25.40.92]) by gatekeeper.tait.co.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D634015B683for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:08 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.sunstrike.tait.co.nz by sunstrike.tait.co.nz(Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 (built Apr 28 2004)) id <0IUP003011TUDR00@sunstrike.tait.co.nz>(original mail from xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx) for linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:08 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from parore ([172.25.140.12]) by sunstrike.tait.co.nz (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 (built Apr 282004)) with ESMTP id <0IUP00MXE577OC30@sunstrike.tait.co.nz> forlinux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:08 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=johnc) by parore with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1F97nG-0007zN-Io for linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:06 +1300 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:33:06 +1300 (NZDT) From: John Carter Subject: Re: OTish: ISPs In-reply-to: <200602141652.57698.csawtell@paradise.net.nz> X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-X-Sender: johnc@parore To: xxxxx-xxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx Reply-to: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Message-id: X-Complaints-to: /dev/null MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pidgeon Post Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Apparently-From: mars X-Contents: May contain traces of nuts. X-imss-version: 2.037 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-approveListMatch: *@tait.co.nz X-PMAS-Software: PreciseMail V2.1-1 [060213] (cantva.canterbury.ac.nz) X-PMAS-Allowed: Message allowed by user rule References: <41648.203.97.61.135.1139864108.squirrel@mail.greengecko.co.nz> <20060213212549.D076A22B47A@smtp-2.paradise.net.nz> <"200602141652.57698.csawtell"@paradise.net.nz> Comments: University of Canterbury Linux Users Group Status: RO Content-Length: 1133 Lines: 34 On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > You can relieve the tension by having a go at them about the fact that they > have screwed up the routing to get from Christchurch to Wellington. Grrr. This mess makes me just plain mad. And now Telecom has promised these new Faster&Cheaper plans to try ward off regulation. I had a look at them on their website. Bah! Foo! They have increased the speed, haven't made it cheaper for residential customers and have left the data limit at the same miserable amount. Roll on regulation I say. Perhaps they can shove the notion of peering down the throats these greedy ISP's while they are at it. Anyone know of the appropriate button to push on to encourage the regulators? xxxx xxxxxx xxxxx : (64)(3) ... xxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxx : (64)(3) ... xx xxx xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx : xxxx.xxxxxx@xxxx.xx.xx xxx xxxxxxx Carter's Clarification of Murphy's Law. "Things only ever go right so that they may go more spectacularly wrong later." From this principle, all of life and physics may be deduced. From linux-users-owner@it.canterbury.ac.nz Wed Feb 15 11:35:09 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx X-Envelope-To: xxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx Received: from pop3.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.6] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.5.2) for xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx (single-drop); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:35:09 +1300 (NZDT) Received: (qmail 23290 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2006 22:31:34 -0000 Received: from tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz (HELO linda-1.paradise.net.nz) (203.96.152.172) by internal-pop3-4.paradise.net.nz with SMTP; 14 Feb 2006 22:31:34 -0000 Received: from smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IUP0069U7WJE7@linda-1.paradise.net.nz>; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:31:31 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from cantva.canterbury.ac.nz (cantva.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.2.27]) by smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA701920FB; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:31:31 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from PROCESS-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) id <01LYZUXV3AK09V6TAS@it.canterbury.ac.nz> (original mail from a.errington@lancaster.ac.uk); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:31:28 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) id <01LYZUY0LEHCAJSJ2F@it.canterbury.ac.nz> for linux-users-expand@process.it.canterbury.ac.nz (ORCPT linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:31:31 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from PMAS-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) id <01LYZUXUS9349V9ZEX@it.canterbury.ac.nz> for linux-users-expand@process.it.canterbury.ac.nz (ORCPT linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:31:23 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (bm-1a.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.180]) by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) with ESMTP id <01LYZUXUK54A9V80LI@it.canterbury.ac.nz> for linux-users-expand@process.it.canterbury.ac.nz (ORCPT linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:31:23 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (tclsnelb1-src-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.172]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IUP007CB7VHM0@linda-1.paradise.net.nz> for linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:30:54 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from there (203-97-121-4.cable.telstraclear.net [203.97.121.4]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 5483A15B223 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:30:53 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:30:46 +1300 From: Andrew Errington Subject: Re: OTish: ISPs In-reply-to: <200602151027.51650.clug@nice.net.nz> To: xxxxx-xxxxx@xx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx Message-id: <20060214223053.5483A15B223@smtp-3.paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-PMAS-Software: PreciseMail V2.1-1 [060213] (cantva.canterbury.ac.nz) X-PMAS-Allowed: Message allowed by user rule References: <41648.203.97.61.135.1139864108.squirrel@mail.greengecko.co.nz> <43a59d630602141117u243b52ffw@mail.gmail.com> <200602151027.51650.clug@nice.net.nz> Comments: University of Canterbury Linux Users Group Status: RO Content-Length: 526 Lines: 13 On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:27, you wrote: > > Did you all see the new regarding Telecom the other night? (See [2]) The > almighty Telecom have decided to give us some more speed. Ooh, where do I sign up for this fabulous 512kbps upload service? No, wait, I'll stick with Telstra's measly 2Mbps for now. Never mind. The Commerce Commission will have it all fixed in 4 years. I was sort of hoping 4 weeks or 4 months. Has the government ever heard of a place called "South Korea"? It's not even that far from here. Andy