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<title>User:Mike.lifeguard/Wish list</title>
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<timestamp>2008-01-22T02:45:08Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
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<minor/>
<comment>first draft, mostly copied from http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Wikibooks:Reading_room/Archives/2007/November&oldid=1072591#Technical "Wish List"</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2294">Wikibooks uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. Darklama can probably explain this idea better then I can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work)
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Search by book is a must-have!
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists)
----
By priority:
:::So that was basically an endorsement of almost all the proposals you mentioned. If prioritizing is required:
:::#Search by book (should be easy to do)
:::#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
:::#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
:::#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
:::#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
:::#Read-only (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>845596</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-22T02:45:30Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2164">Wikibooks uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. Darklama can probably explain this idea better then I can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work)
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Search by book is a must-have!
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists)
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#Read-only (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
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<revision>
<id>845602</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-22T02:52:30Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>+bug</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2183">Wikibooks uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. Darklama can probably explain this idea better then I can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work)
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Search by book is a must-have!
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#Read-only (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>845605</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-22T02:55:18Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>+related links</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2410">Wikibooks uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. Darklama can probably explain this idea better then I can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Search by book is a must-have!
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#Read-only (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>845608</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-22T02:56:35Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>clarify who's talking here</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2453">Wikibooks uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Search by book is a must-have!
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#Read-only (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>845609</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-22T02:57:03Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>rm dupe</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2421">Wikibooks uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#Read-only (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>845610</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-22T02:58:19Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>re-order by priority</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2446">Wikibooks uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>852444</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-26T23:34:24Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>wf</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2462">[[b:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]] uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#A list of all top-level pages in the mainspace would be great, especially if it can be done dynamically (as opposed to periodically sorting through the database or something).
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>852445</id>
<timestamp>2008-01-26T23:36:26Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>rm dupe</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2285">[[b:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]] uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>904566</id>
<timestamp>2008-03-06T00:49:33Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>+3 extensions</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2390">[[b:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]] uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#:See also [[mw:Extension:Pdf Book]], [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export]] and [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export Dompdf]]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>904567</id>
<timestamp>2008-03-06T00:49:48Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>)</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2391">[[b:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]] uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons)
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#:See also [[mw:Extension:Pdf Book]], [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export]] and [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export Dompdf]]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>904570</id>
<timestamp>2008-03-06T00:51:12Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2432">[[b:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]] uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons)
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html][http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html]
#:See also [[mw:Extension:Pdf Book]], [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export]] and [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export Dompdf]]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]], [[bugzilla:2308]] and [[bugzilla:1710]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>1124393</id>
<timestamp>2008-08-08T17:13:52Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<comment>+PDF is live on en.labs</comment>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2530">[[b:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]] uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons)
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work) [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html]
[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html Nov 07]
[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html Sept 07]
[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2008-August/001299.html Aug 08]
#:See also [[mw:Extension:Pdf Book]], [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export]] and [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export Dompdf]]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]], [[bugzilla:2308]] and [[bugzilla:1710]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
<revision>
<id>1124394</id>
<timestamp>2008-08-08T17:14:19Z</timestamp>
<contributor>
<username>Mike.lifeguard</username>
<id>49164</id>
</contributor>
<minor/>
<text xml:space="preserve" bytes="2537">[[b:Wikibooks|Wikibooks]] uses the [[MediaWiki]] software, which was developed for [[w:|Wikipedia]]. As such, it's not strictly intended for use in writing textbooks. Here is a technical wish list for Wikibooks to help with some of these shortcomings:
#"Search this book" feature being a special page, not a link to a google search
#Per-book stylesheets (although we could just as easily do that in javascript, it might be nice to have the javascript added to the core MW distribution)
#Book organizational meta-pages. A page where you could specify the layout for a book, and it would then generate an automatic TOC, and automatic forward/backward links, etc. [[b:User:Darklama|darklama]] can probably explain this idea better then [[b:User:Whiteknight|I]] can
#List of books. Like the special page [[Special:Allpages]], but would only list the main page of a book, not all pages.
#A read-only Wikijunior domain (already registered) - a read only storage location for all stable book versions, which could be updated from Wikibooks when necessary
#The GNU Lilypond extension, for music and other types of displays (we've asked many times, and never got them because of technical reasons)
#PDF generator (currently hosted on the toolserver, but needs much work)
[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2008-August/001299.html Aug 08]
[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-December/001217.html Dec 07]
[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-November/001178.html Nov 07]
[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/textbook-l/2007-September/001144.html Sept 07]
#:See also [[mw:Extension:Pdf Book]], [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export]] and [[mw:Extension:Pdf Export Dompdf]]
#An automatic TOC-generator tool. Several people have asked how to create new pages; this would help with that by providing a TOC of redlinks for them to work on, and would also foster greater organization of new books right from the get-go.
#Watching pages in bundles (ie per-book watchlists) [[bugzilla:12308]], [[bugzilla:2308]] and [[bugzilla:1710]]
----
By priority:
#Search by book (should be easy to do)
#''Good'' PDF (and/or print version) generation (requires lots of work, and is probably difficult to do properly)
#List of top-level pages in the mainspace (ie books) (should be easy to do)
#TOC generator-thing (should be easy to do, but we can function just fine without it)
#per-book styles (most important thing to do requiring some work)
#Read-only or other quality control (needs lots of discussion before anything else)</text>
</revision>
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