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The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Content-Length: 2948 Lines: 71 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > It would help if I receive two or three existing implementations (I will > not publish that code) to see what people are doing. Maybe, I can create > a base class DBI implementation which can be extended to personal needs... > Anyone? i have a few ideas: the DBI layer and a Mail::Box::DBI should be seperate in my views, in terms of database specifics. I think there should be another type of object, which is created from a default set but can be filled in by some externally constructed one, which allows the definition of the table structure, columns, et cetera. 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If the Mail::Box::DBI (or whatever it'll be) mailbox driver uses this mediator object to create SQL queries for it, this will also allow for greater flexibility and optimisations between database servers, and provide a means to allow emphasis on specific details - will message reading be optimised for skimming - like in a quarenteen database, will it be low volume personal mail, etc. Since i tend to babble, if nobody understood what the hell i wanted i'd be glad to draw a little doodle explaining everything... =) > > I hope it would also > > assist in provding POP/IMAP access to quarantined mail in the future. > > Over all would this be the better solution? > > You are talking about POP and IMAP servers here... that will be a lot > of work. > I'm up to it, and i have some plans, and dillemas I was going to bring up on the list this week, when i'll have more time. the main problem is the current memory performance of the perl thread model, and it's 'experimental' status, which is a bit of a taboo regarding production environments, versus real forking, which has it's obvious disadvantages aswell. it'd also be cool to hack SGI::FAM into the mess for local mailboxes, and create an similarly functioning interface with IMAP's IDLE command when the Mail::Box::IMAP4 module is ready... i think a new method call ("monitor"?) which blocks, and another which registers with a global (Mail::Box::Manager global, that is) which allows monitoring of multiple mailboxes would be useful both for a server, and for real MUAs, not just the scripts we all write to munge our mail... bah. i better stop. ciao ciao! - -- Yuval Kogman ( nothingmuch@woobling.org | nothingmuch@altern.org ) kung foo master: /me sushi-spin-kicks : neeyah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! et perl hacker. !@# http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/ gpg:0xEBD27418 http://wecanstopspam.org/ http://www.habeas.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.10.2 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAj8NmhwACgkQVCwRwOvSdBg9NgCgoGYEcKqqaUO3zyWBahRPmXNx mkEAmgNNVYoYUxXypaMpTWKKnbAgV/bN =QsQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mailbox-owner@perl.overmeer.net Tue Jul 15 03:02:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: markov@speeltuin.atcomputing.nl Received: by speeltuin.ATComputing.nl (Postfix, from userid 65) id 6EC6039FC; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:02:18 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: mailbox@speeltuin.atcomputing.nl Received: from mail.woobling.org (unknown [192.117.109.177]) by speeltuin.ATComputing.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AED39A3 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:02:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.woobling.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id 66D713D1108; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:06:16 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:06:12 +0300 (IDT) From: Yuval Kojman To: mailbox@perl.overmeer.net Subject: mailbox imap/pop server plans Message-ID: X-PGP-Key: http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/gpg-key-0xEBD27418.asc X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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TIA - -- Yuval Kogman ( nothingmuch@woobling.org | nothingmuch@altern.org ) kung foo master: /me whallops greyface with a fnord: neeyah!!!!!!!! et perl hacker. !@# http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/ gpg:0xEBD27418 http://wecanstopspam.org/ http://www.habeas.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) Comment: pgpenvelope 2.10.2 - http://pgpenvelope.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAj8TU4cACgkQVCwRwOvSdBjpWQCgiubIEzLaMb4iQq4GnnHKnKiG KyIAoIM856aogzcUYeUh9YHq6qmdUETF =JlV/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mailbox-owner@perl.overmeer.net Tue Jul 15 03:02:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: markov@speeltuin.atcomputing.nl Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:06:12 +0300 (IDT) From: Yuval Kojman To: mailbox@perl.overmeer.net Subject: mailbox imap/pop server plans Message-ID: X-PGP-Key: http://nothingmuch.woobling.org/gpg-key-0xEBD27418.asc X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: This line is wrong on purpose!!!! 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