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On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 09:00:53PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote:
> Not that Seattle is anywhere near London or anything, but recent
> discussion asked for examples of Perl being used at big companies,
> and it was pointed out that Amazon uses it but won't go on the
> record as doing so.
>
> Web Developer, Amazon.com, full time salaried employee
>
> http://jobs.perl.org/job/402
>
> Does this count as going on record now? :)
Larry was in Seattle in the spring of 1998 or so I think. It was
where he presented the preliminary version of XML::Parser at an
XML conference.
On that trip, he was invited to visit Amazon because "the company
/runs/ on Perl". IIRC, when he walked into reception and said
something like "Hi, I'm Larry Wall" and proceeded to get the royal
treatment.
I think Larry may have mentioned an annecdote or two from this
trip. Possibly in a keynote speech or something. IAC, it's been
common knowledge for years that Amazon uses a lot of Perl, even if
they don't blast the trumpets about it. It's probably been documented
somewhere, mostly as a footnote or a passing observation.
Ditto Yahoo!.
Z.
PS: Good catch.
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Not that Seattle is anywhere near London or anything, but recent
discussion asked for examples of Perl being used at big companies,
and it was pointed out that Amazon uses it but won't go on the
record as doing so.
Web Developer, Amazon.com, full time salaried employee
http://jobs.perl.org/job/402
Does this count as going on record now? :)
--
Chris Devers
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At 11:03 03/08/2002, you wrote:
>>IAC, it's been
>>common knowledge for years that Amazon uses a lot of Perl, even if
>>they don't blast the trumpets about it.
>
>
>I keep on hearing that if big companies really like a technology (eg perl)
>then they often see it as a business advantage to keep it to themselves
>so they don't pass on the info to their competitors :-(
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>
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>IAC, it's been
>common knowledge for years that Amazon uses a lot of Perl, even if
>they don't blast the trumpets about it.
I keep on hearing that if big companies really like a technology (eg perl)
then they often see it as a business advantage to keep it to themselves
so they don't pass on the info to their competitors :-(
Alex
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